On several occasions, I have noticed the 1.6T engine will significantly ping (a rattling-tin-can-like sound coming from the engine).
This condition is reproducible and ONLY occurs when the vehicle has been driven for a significant amount of time on a long distance trip (say, 50 mi or more) where the engine is allowed to reach normal operating temperature AND the vehicle is subsequently shut off for a short period of 10-30 minutes (about the time for a typical store visit). After restarting the vehicle and beginning to drive after that short period is when the noticeable pinging begins (I'll call this the "second drive").
It's as if a sensor or computer module is misinterpreting engine conditions during that "second drive" described above and not calculating the correct air/fuel mixture. When the pinging is experienced, it is quite noticeable and I have tried different drive modes and increasing the RPMs using the paddle shifters with no improvement. I have also tried pulling over and restarting the vehicle, and again with the same pinging outcome. Of course in EV mode, this condition doesn't apply.
If the Tucson Hybrid is allowed to completely cool down, it drives normally again (no engine pinging).
After some research, others describe having had the same experience with the 1.6 Turbo engine as far back as 2012. The vehicle is not throwing any codes based on my scan tool, but it's possible the vehicle is too new for my scanner.
If anyone else notices a similar condition on the Tucson Hybrid, please report here. My concern taking this to a dealership at this point is that it's challenging for a service center to reproduce because of the time it takes, and, I don't want to hear, "we couldn't reproduce the scenario". If enough others are experiencing the same, it demonstrates a systematic problem. Otherwise, it could be an isolated problem on my vehicle that just needs to be addressed.
2022 Tucson Hybrid 1.6T engine Ping
On several occasions, I have noticed the 1.6T engine will significantly ping (a rattling-tin-can-like sound coming from the engine).
This condition is reproducible and ONLY occurs when the vehicle has been driven for a significant amount of time on a long distance trip (say, 50 mi or more) where the engine is allowed to reach normal operating temperature AND the vehicle is subsequently shut off for a short period of 10-30 minutes (about the time for a typical store visit). After restarting the vehicle and beginning to drive after that short period is when the noticeable pinging begins (I'll call this the "second drive").
It's as if a sensor or computer module is misinterpreting engine conditions during that "second drive" described above and not calculating the correct air/fuel mixture. When the pinging is experienced, it is quite noticeable and I have tried different drive modes and increasing the RPMs using the paddle shifters with no improvement. I have also tried pulling over and restarting the vehicle, and again with the same pinging outcome. Of course in EV mode, this condition doesn't apply.
If the Tucson Hybrid is allowed to completely cool down, it drives normally again (no engine pinging).
After some research, others describe having had the same experience with the 1.6 Turbo engine as far back as 2012. The vehicle is not throwing any codes based on my scan tool, but it's possible the vehicle is too new for my scanner.
If anyone else notices a similar condition on the Tucson Hybrid, please report here. My concern taking this to a dealership at this point is that it's challenging for a service center to reproduce because of the time it takes, and, I don't want to hear, "we couldn't reproduce the scenario". If enough others are experiencing the same, it demonstrates a systematic problem. Otherwise, it could be an isolated problem on my vehicle that just needs to be addressed.
This condition is reproducible and ONLY occurs when the vehicle has been driven for a significant amount of time on a long distance trip (say, 50 mi or more) where the engine is allowed to reach normal operating temperature AND the vehicle is subsequently shut off for a short period of 10-30 minutes (about the time for a typical store visit). After restarting the vehicle and beginning to drive after that short period is when the noticeable pinging begins (I'll call this the "second drive").
It's as if a sensor or computer module is misinterpreting engine conditions during that "second drive" described above and not calculating the correct air/fuel mixture. When the pinging is experienced, it is quite noticeable and I have tried different drive modes and increasing the RPMs using the paddle shifters with no improvement. I have also tried pulling over and restarting the vehicle, and again with the same pinging outcome. Of course in EV mode, this condition doesn't apply.
If the Tucson Hybrid is allowed to completely cool down, it drives normally again (no engine pinging).
After some research, others describe having had the same experience with the 1.6 Turbo engine as far back as 2012. The vehicle is not throwing any codes based on my scan tool, but it's possible the vehicle is too new for my scanner.
If anyone else notices a similar condition on the Tucson Hybrid, please report here. My concern taking this to a dealership at this point is that it's challenging for a service center to reproduce because of the time it takes, and, I don't want to hear, "we couldn't reproduce the scenario". If enough others are experiencing the same, it demonstrates a systematic problem. Otherwise, it could be an isolated problem on my vehicle that just needs to be addressed.
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Did this ever get resolved for you? I have the same issue and Hyundai says "no code" > "no problem".I have the exact issue you’re describing. The sound is worse when driving uphill,especially if you have the windows down. I took it in to the dealer. They drove it around and didn’t hear anything. I had to sit with the tech to point out the noise. He drove another hybrid and said the noise is occurring on it too, so they chalked it off as normal operating noise. May have to wait for a TSB I suppose.
What I think this " problem " which is not real problem is with turbo charger or turbo boost. I have this kind of noise somebody said like marbles with my Volvo truck ( big diesel rig ) when going uphill and more turbo boost in charge, more " marbles " you hear. This is not about fuel octane, this is about turbo boost. I drive it like that for long time with no problem and I did have the same with my previous trucks. Nothing to worry unless this sound make you crazy😂Did this ever get resolved for you? I have the same issue and Hyundai says "no code" > "no problem".
Can anyone post a video of the ping / rattle noise when engine under load? I am reconsidering my potential decision to purchase. Also is engine oil pan leak issue related? Has anyone checked the oil dipstick to see if oil level is low when engine pinging?
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On my 2022 Hybrid 1.6 Turbo I notice a rattling sound from the engine not pinging it does it on part throttle if you hold a gear with paddle shifter and bring on the gas annoying 😡In my case, 87 octane (the Owner's Manual specifies 87 to 91 octane). I just read about the CVVD technology recently implemented in this 1.6T engine and the valve management complexity is a bit concerning. I mention this because the engine behavior symptoms sound valve related based on my experience.
I wonder if the rattle is the timing change tensioner. Odd for new car to have such issues.On my 2022 Hybrid 1.6 Turbo I notice a rattling sound from the engine not pinging it does it on part throttle if you hold a gear with paddle shifter and bring on the gas annoying 😡
guys, can you report back at what engine RPM range this is happening? as well as what speed?
This could very well be due to LSPI (low speed pre-ignition) that could be encouraged from the engine oil being used. The 1.6T is a direct and port injected small displacement turbo and from my extensive work on turbo engines, LSPI has been a more recent issue with direct inject. Also note that the engines in hybrid vehicles are always shutting themselves off, I would highly encourage owners to drive on the highway at least, some of the time, to get the engine up to temp and have it clean itself out from the heads (fuel on the backs of intake valves), down to the oil getting nice and hot and burning off any lingering condensation.
Finally, I would be very weary of the oil change intervals as oil is probably more important to an engine that is alternating between cold/warm start frequently, than a normal ICE powertrain that stays engaged and running that only needs to be cranked over once.
This could very well be due to LSPI (low speed pre-ignition) that could be encouraged from the engine oil being used. The 1.6T is a direct and port injected small displacement turbo and from my extensive work on turbo engines, LSPI has been a more recent issue with direct inject. Also note that the engines in hybrid vehicles are always shutting themselves off, I would highly encourage owners to drive on the highway at least, some of the time, to get the engine up to temp and have it clean itself out from the heads (fuel on the backs of intake valves), down to the oil getting nice and hot and burning off any lingering condensation.
Finally, I would be very weary of the oil change intervals as oil is probably more important to an engine that is alternating between cold/warm start frequently, than a normal ICE powertrain that stays engaged and running that only needs to be cranked over once.
The 2022 Tucson HEV is Direct injection only the 2.5 in the non hybrid is direct and port injectedguys, can you report back at what engine RPM range this is happening? as well as what speed?
This could very well be due to LSPI (low speed pre-ignition) that could be encouraged from the engine oil being used. The 1.6T is a direct and port injected small displacement turbo and from my extensive work on turbo engines, LSPI has been a more recent issue with direct inject. Also note that the engines in hybrid vehicles are always shutting themselves off, I would highly encourage owners to drive on the highway at least, some of the time, to get the engine up to temp and have it clean itself out from the heads (fuel on the backs of intake valves), down to the oil getting nice and hot and burning off any lingering condensation.
Finally, I would be very weary of the oil change intervals as oil is probably more important to an engine that is alternating between cold/warm start frequently, than a normal ICE powertrain that stays engaged and running that only needs to be cranked over once.
Ah, you are 100% correct on that one. Sadly, that point makes it even more important to get the engine hot on a regular basis and during the winter, i have driven my tucson where it is sipping gas amazingly, and arriving at my destination, just to pop the hood and the ONLY thing hot was the exhaust manifold. everything else was colder than my hand to the touch.
for the pinging, i would try
1. identify the engine rpm and the road speed where it happens and if you can duplicate it consistently.
2. try a higher octane fuel and duplicate the same engine rpm/roadspeed
if these seem to minimize the issue, i would kick it into sport mode for the next highway cruise and see if it helps eliminate it.
for the pinging, i would try
1. identify the engine rpm and the road speed where it happens and if you can duplicate it consistently.
2. try a higher octane fuel and duplicate the same engine rpm/roadspeed
if these seem to minimize the issue, i would kick it into sport mode for the next highway cruise and see if it helps eliminate it.
Definitely not ping sounds like a bag of 10 mm bolts being shook 😀Ah, you are 100% correct on that one. Sadly, that point makes it even more important to get the engine hot on a regular basis and during the winter, i have driven my tucson where it is sipping gas amazingly, and arriving at my destination, just to pop the hood and the ONLY thing hot was the exhaust manifold. everything else was colder than my hand to the touch.
for the pinging, i would try
1. identify the engine rpm and the road speed where it happens and if you can duplicate it consistently.
2. try a higher octane fuel and duplicate the same engine rpm/roadspeed
if these seem to minimize the issue, i would kick it into sport mode for the next highway cruise and see if it helps eliminate it.
For a video, go to YouTube and look for Hyundai sonata engine rattle. Same noise.Can anyone post a video of the ping / rattle noise when engine under load? I am reconsidering my potential decision to purchase. Also is engine oil pan leak issue related? Has anyone checked the oil dipstick to see if oil level is low when engine pinging?
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I had a 2019 Tucson that made this noise. Service manager heard it and upon investigating they found something wrong with cylinder 3 and replaced the engine at 8k miles. Fast forward a few months and we're at it again. I took it back and nothing came of it, so I stopped caring. Lease expired and got the 2022 SEL with premium package. I'm at 2200+ miles and this one does it too. It's annoying, but I think it's a "Hyundai feature". Will definitely bring it up when I go for the first oil change.
BTW, both engines are non turbo.
i have a 22 Tucson Hybrid it's a 1.6 Turbo it sounds like someone playing Maracas car has 1800 miles on it not very happy i have owned many Hyundai's without a problemFor a video, go to YouTube and look for Hyundai sonata engine rattle. Same noise.
I had a 2019 Tucson that made this noise. Service manager heard it and upon investigating they found something wrong with cylinder 3 and replaced the engine at 8k miles. Fast forward a few months and we're at it again. I took it back and nothing came of it, so I stopped caring. Lease expired and got the 2022 SEL with premium package. I'm at 2200+ miles and this one does it too. It's annoying, but I think it's a "Hyundai feature". Will definitely bring it up when I go for the first oil change.
BTW, both engines are non turbo.
I filled up with premium and so far so good... We'll see if it lastsi have a 22 Tucson Hybrid it's a 1.6 Turbo it sounds like someone playing Maracas car has 1800 miles on it not very happy i have owned many Hyundai's without a problem
This sounds like not an uncommon problem. It would still be nice if someone could upload a video. Is Hyundai still claiming this is “normal”? Would an early oil change at 1000 miles w full synthetic oil help this issue? Would driving in sport mode or on highway for first few hundred miles help? How long does it take for the engine in a hybrid take to come up to proper operating temperature? I am assuming that engine is running when running in hybrid mode.i have a 22 Tucson Hybrid it's a 1.6 Turbo it sounds like someone playing Maracas car has 1800 miles on it not very happy i have owned many Hyundai's without a problem
Nothing to do with the engine being warm, and many people reported that switching to premium didn't help. Was surprised to hear Aoandrei1 saying it fixed the issue.This sounds like not an uncommon problem. It would still be nice if someone could upload a video. Is Hyundai still claiming this is “normal”? Would an early oil change at 1000 miles w full synthetic oil help this issue? Would driving in sport mode or on highway for first few hundred miles help? How long does it take for the engine in a hybrid take to come up to proper operating temperature? I am assuming that engine is running when running in hybrid mode.
Crow said it started on a specific day. I'm not sure if it was him or someone on another forum managed to hear some sort of metallic snap sound and then they started having the issue ever since.
People are describing it as an engine ping issue, others as more of a rattle (which could be easily confused with pinging).
My guess is some sort of tensioner breaks and then causes rattling under load. Possibly loose timing chain if a tensioner breaks but that's pure speculation.
I believe the issue will eventually be identified and fixed. To be clear, not everyone has this problem and it's not guaranteed that the problem will develop. It would be very helpful if people with the issue could post their build date to see if we can identify a trend. I have almost 5,000KM's on mine and zero rattles or pings from the engine yet. Driven in extreme cold as well, no weird noises from the cold.
For the owners with the issue, can you post your build dates? Mine is built Sept 2021, delivered November 2021.
There is something wrong with these 1.6 Turbo Engines it Sounds like valve train noise not pinging like people are saying I called the dealer and made an appointment for May 5 this will be the second time at the dealer since new vehicle has 2000 miles on it 1st visit was for excessive wind noise at both front doors which has not been fixed as there is no solution as of yet from Hyundai “ENGINEERS” I have a question don’t they test these cars ? This is my 8th Hyundai never these problems not Happy👎This sounds like not an uncommon problem. It would still be nice if someone could upload a video. Is Hyundai still claiming this is “normal”? Would an early oil change at 1000 miles w full synthetic oil help this issue? Would driving in sport mode or on highway for first few hundred miles help? How long does it take for the engine in a hybrid take to come up to proper operating temperature? I am assuming that engine is running when running in hybrid mode.
I’ve done 2 Oil Changes W/ 0-20 Pennzoil Full Synthetic I’ve had the problem since 1000 miles hoping 2 oil changes would help I guess not still have the noise bringing it in May 5👎 for $35000 USD !This sounds like not an uncommon problem. It would still be nice if someone could upload a video. Is Hyundai still claiming this is “normal”? Would an early oil change at 1000 miles w full synthetic oil help this issue? Would driving in sport mode or on highway for first few hundred miles help? How long does it take for the engine in a hybrid take to come up to proper operating temperature? I am assuming that engine is running when running in hybrid mode.
Since starting this discussion in Jun 2021, I just wanted to provide an update that no suggested solution has resolved the pinging/rattling engine issue including oil change and higher octane gas. The dealer's new age mechanics are clueless since no codes are thrown. The condition in my case is easily reproduced at the 2500-3000 rpm range while accelerating under load such as climbing uphill. It doesn't seem to affect performance but is quite annoying and embarrassing for a new vehicle. A real shame for an otherwise very nice vehicle.
As I've mentioned before, in my case, the issue started at approximately 1,000mi (6 weeks old) with a sudden engine bang while in a parking lot at a near crawl speed. Something snapped. I've since test driven an identical Tucson Limited Hybrid that does not exhibit the same pinging/rattling condition while accelerating under a load to validate this is not normal behavior as the dealer suggests. Given how this condition started under very ordinary circumstances of driving in a parking lot, it seems there's a good chance that it's a matter of time before others experience the same.
IMO if the dealers aren't able to identify the cause, Hyundai should consider replacing the engine and at least demonstrate a willingness to teardown the engine to find the cause before this becomes another multi-million unit recall.
As I've mentioned before, in my case, the issue started at approximately 1,000mi (6 weeks old) with a sudden engine bang while in a parking lot at a near crawl speed. Something snapped. I've since test driven an identical Tucson Limited Hybrid that does not exhibit the same pinging/rattling condition while accelerating under a load to validate this is not normal behavior as the dealer suggests. Given how this condition started under very ordinary circumstances of driving in a parking lot, it seems there's a good chance that it's a matter of time before others experience the same.
IMO if the dealers aren't able to identify the cause, Hyundai should consider replacing the engine and at least demonstrate a willingness to teardown the engine to find the cause before this becomes another multi-million unit recall.
I fully understand your sentiments and frustration but that isn't really how it all works. It actually is not as often to have a problem that it is found to be a model wide problem, far more often a particular part failed for whatever reason in that particular car. Or at most a limited run of that car had a problem even for recalls. People have all kinds of problems yet recalls and TSB's really are not all that numerous for a given model normally. So unless or until many cars exhibit your problem I would not expect alot of others to have it.
Replacing the engine or tearing it down at this point may not be a great answer either. They need time to figure out exactly what went wrong if they can - you are assuming it's in the engine, hopefully they are not assuming that because it can be other things. In fact I see signs it isn't the engine - no performance problems, only at a particular RPM range, and no code. I might be looking at the transmission also for instance. It's fair to say it's a new model and they may not have all the ready answers yet for some problems. But they have to keep working on however.
You have to make sure they stay on this and get updates from them. Saying it is normal is one of the things that make people distrust dealers/service departments. Of course it isn't normal.
Also - Start looking into the Lemon Law in your State and have a record of them not being able to fix it and let the dealer know you are looking into it if they keep saying they cannot fix it yet.
Replacing the engine or tearing it down at this point may not be a great answer either. They need time to figure out exactly what went wrong if they can - you are assuming it's in the engine, hopefully they are not assuming that because it can be other things. In fact I see signs it isn't the engine - no performance problems, only at a particular RPM range, and no code. I might be looking at the transmission also for instance. It's fair to say it's a new model and they may not have all the ready answers yet for some problems. But they have to keep working on however.
You have to make sure they stay on this and get updates from them. Saying it is normal is one of the things that make people distrust dealers/service departments. Of course it isn't normal.
Also - Start looking into the Lemon Law in your State and have a record of them not being able to fix it and let the dealer know you are looking into it if they keep saying they cannot fix it yet.
Maybe, just note you have a different engine. The 2022 1.6T engine is all new and I'm confident it's an engine-related problem, not a trans problem. No symptoms experienced in EV mode.
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