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Advice for a NEWBIE PHEV owner, drive settings & other suggestions

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Finally took delivery of a Tucson PHEV - ultimate trim on thursday after a 6 month wait.
My wife, who drives with a lead foot will be the principal driver....
So many settings to play with, too lazy to read the multi-page manual lol.
Advice from the more experienced owners on here regarding car settings, preferred drive modes or other options would be appreciated before I turn this beast over my wife.
I have already changed the power tailgate settings to off as it opens when i walk behind it to plug in the charger and the rear occupancy alarm. Any others ???
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Download the online manual, it is much easier to navigate, and it has a search function, which helps a lot, since the index and glossary in the print version is practically useless. There is also a PHEV forum here. Do a search on both and you will find a lot of what you are looking for.
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lead foot and this car don't really get along...won't matter if you drive within the EV range and charge nightly though.
lead foot and this car don't really get along...won't matter if you drive within the EV range and charge nightly though.
after driving the car for 2 days,
impression are: quick of the line but once up to speed,say 60-70km, pedal response lagging when you need power. ride is not as soft as reported by many. have not taken it on the freeway yet to check out overtaking/passing power...maybe tomorrow.
wife is hesitant to drive brand new car yet, likes my honda accord except it sits too low for her liking.
after her putting a few dents in my honda, i bought the dent and tire protection for the tucson of which i am sure we will using lol.
quick of the line but once up to speed,say 60-70km, pedal response lagging when you need power.
Sport Mode all day
after driving the car for 2 days,
impression are: quick of the line but once up to speed,say 60-70km, pedal response lagging when you need power. ride is not as soft.
"Soft"...
I guess you referring to the suspension system?
after driving the car for 2 days,
impression are: quick of the line but once up to speed,say 60-70km, pedal response lagging when you need power. ride is not as soft as reported by many. have not taken it on the freeway yet to check out overtaking/passing power...maybe tomorrow.
wife is hesitant to drive brand new car yet, likes my honda accord except it sits too low for her liking.
after her putting a few dents in my honda, i bought the dent and tire protection for the tucson of which i am sure we will using lol.
Drive mode : The drive mode you select will change the pedal reaction, the power delivery accel and car behaviour. For a more agressive reaction, the SPORT will be more responsive to pedal input but the downside is the ICE engine will run and your fuel consumption will be less efficient. I do think most PHEV owners run in ECO, since we like hypermiling and we hate burning dinosaur juice. The ECO mode will make the car a bit more "asleep", but this mode is to save fuel and battery.
Remember that Power = (Force x Displacement ) / Time. The faster you want to do something, the more power it needs.

EV mode Accel : Most EV's are pretty zippy at lower speeds, its just inherent to the torque advantage of an electric drive and the Tucson PHEV often launches in AWD mode, even on dry pavement. But, merging at highway speeds will always request a lot of power and most PHEV do not shine in terms of accel at highway speeds, because the EV motor is small. My previous Ioniq PHEV was horrible and not able to merge on the highway at a safe speed and most of the time and the ICE always had to kick in.

Good news, IMO the Tucson is way better and can merge at safe highway speeds if you have a bit of room to gently accel in the lane. In my case, 9 times out of 10 I can do it in EV mode only. The ICE kick in when I have to merge from 0kmh into a ramp that goes uphill. When you accel, if you are in ECO mode, the right dial gauge will show you where the power request is. As soon you drive the car in the "Power" zone for a little time, the ICE will turn ON to complement the EV motor for the merge (if you are in ECO mode).

Remember that when you are in EV mode, only the electric motor of 90 HP (67 Kw) is driving the wheels unless you request more power. I'm always impressed how a small electric drive of 90Hp is sufficient. After a couple weeks of driving, you will not look at the power gauge anymore and you will get used to the power delivery of your Tucson PHEV. You will know just by the feeling where the top of the electric 90 HP is, just by feeling. Now, after some time, I can tell when I'm getting close to exceed the 90 HP, and I don't even look at the ECO driving gauge anymore.

Suspension: This is normal. The Tucson suspension is on the firm side for an SUV, most reviewers do highlight this feature in their reviews (I know Alex On Auto did). This is a personal preference, I do prefer a firmer ride when compared to a sluggish Toyota or Mitsubishi suspension, but yes, the Tucson PHEV is on the rough side for a SUV and you can sure feel the poor Canadian roads.
Remember also that this vehicle is heavy, with the added battery pack.

I hope you'll like it a lot :)
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Drive mode : The drive mode you select will change the pedal reaction, the power delivery accel and car behaviour. For a more agressive reaction, the SPORT will be more responsive to pedal input but the downside is the ICE engine will run and your fuel consumption will be less efficient. I do think most PHEV owners run in ECO, since we like hypermiling and we hate burning dinosaur juice. The ECO mode will make the car a bit more "asleep", but this mode is to save fuel and battery.
Remember that Power = (Force x Displacement ) / Time. The faster you want to do something, the more power it needs.

EV mode Accel : Most EV's are pretty zippy at lower speeds, its just inherent to the torque advantage of an electric drive and the Tucson PHEV often launches in AWD mode, even on dry pavement. But, merging at highway speeds will always request a lot of power and most PHEV do not shine in terms of accel at highway speeds, because the EV motor is small. My previous Ioniq PHEV was horrible and not able to merge on the highway at a safe speed and most of the time and the ICE always had to kick in.

Good news, IMO the Tucson is way better and can merge at safe highway speeds if you have a bit of room to gently accel in the lane. In my case, 9 times out of 10 I can do it in EV mode only. The ICE kick in when I have to merge from 0kmh into a ramp that goes uphill. When you accel, if you are in ECO mode, the right dial gauge will show you where the power request is. As soon you drive the car in the "Power" zone for a little time, the ICE will turn ON to complement the EV motor for the merge (if you are in ECO mode).

Remember that when you are in EV mode, only the electric motor of 90 HP (67 Kw) is driving the wheels unless you request more power. I'm always impressed how a small electric drive of 90Hp is sufficient. After a couple weeks of driving, you will not look at the power gauge anymore and you will get used to the power delivery of your Tucson PHEV. You will know just by the feeling where the top of the electric 90 HP is, just by feeling. Now, after some time, I can tell when I'm getting close to exceed the 90 HP, and I don't even look at the ECO driving gauge anymore.

Suspension: This is normal. The Tucson suspension is on the firm side for an SUV, most reviewers do highlight this feature in their reviews (I know Alex On Auto did). This is a personal preference, I do prefer a firmer ride when compared to a sluggish Toyota or Mitsubishi suspension, but yes, the Tucson PHEV is on the rough side for a SUV and you can sure feel the poor Canadian roads.
Remember also that this vehicle is heavy, with the added battery pack.

I hope you'll like it a lot :)
thank you for suggestions on how to drive the phev. guess my wife will have to heed all these kind words and change her driving habits if she wants to save on fuel. now if i can hide the sports mode button from her, all will be perfect then lol.
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"Soft"...
I guess you referring to the suspension system?
referring to ride quality, thought it would float like my lexus but ride is more like the accord. not a biggie, just needs getting use to it.
referring to ride quality, thought it would float like my lexus but ride is more like the accord. not a biggie, just needs getting use to it.
Hoping its not firmer than what I presently drive (Palisade).

Test drove a used 2019 Lexus ES350 Hybrid, didn't feel a smoother ride though on that one, I made up my mind not to get it in under 5mins.

Enjoy your new ride
Drive mode : The drive mode you select will change the pedal reaction, the power delivery accel and car behaviour. For a more agressive reaction, the SPORT will be more responsive to pedal input but the downside is the ICE engine will run and your fuel consumption will be less efficient. I do think most PHEV owners run in ECO, since we like hypermiling and we hate burning dinosaur juice. The ECO mode will make the car a bit more "asleep", but this mode is to save fuel and battery.
Remember that Power = (Force x Displacement ) / Time. The faster you want to do something, the more power it needs.

EV mode Accel : Most EV's are pretty zippy at lower speeds, its just inherent to the torque advantage of an electric drive and the Tucson PHEV often launches in AWD mode, even on dry pavement. But, merging at highway speeds will always request a lot of power and most PHEV do not shine in terms of accel at highway speeds, because the EV motor is small. My previous Ioniq PHEV was horrible and not able to merge on the highway at a safe speed and most of the time and the ICE always had to kick in.

Good news, IMO the Tucson is way better and can merge at safe highway speeds if you have a bit of room to gently accel in the lane. In my case, 9 times out of 10 I can do it in EV mode only. The ICE kick in when I have to merge from 0kmh into a ramp that goes uphill. When you accel, if you are in ECO mode, the right dial gauge will show you where the power request is. As soon you drive the car in the "Power" zone for a little time, the ICE will turn ON to complement the EV motor for the merge (if you are in ECO mode).

Remember that when you are in EV mode, only the electric motor of 90 HP (67 Kw) is driving the wheels unless you request more power. I'm always impressed how a small electric drive of 90Hp is sufficient. After a couple weeks of driving, you will not look at the power gauge anymore and you will get used to the power delivery of your Tucson PHEV. You will know just by the feeling where the top of the electric 90 HP is, just by feeling. Now, after some time, I can tell when I'm getting close to exceed the 90 HP, and I don't even look at the ECO driving gauge anymore.

Suspension: This is normal. The Tucson suspension is on the firm side for an SUV, most reviewers do highlight this feature in their reviews (I know Alex On Auto did). This is a personal preference, I do prefer a firmer ride when compared to a sluggish Toyota or Mitsubishi suspension, but yes, the Tucson PHEV is on the rough side for a SUV and you can sure feel the poor Canadian roads.
Remember also that this vehicle is heavy, with the added battery pack.

I hope you'll like it a lot :)
How about SMART MODE ? Did you try to drive few days in smart mode to compare is car more responsive on gas vs ECO MODE and is still fuel economy good ?
How about SMART MODE ? Did you try to drive few days in smart mode to compare is car more responsive on gas vs ECO MODE and is still fuel economy good ?
I've found fuel economy is better for me in sport mode...ironically...I don't have access to a charger regularly so I use my PHEV in hybrid mode mostly. I get a few more mpgs in smart mode than I do eco, since eco seems to just default to drain the battery and then go on gas vs actually switching between the two actively while I drive. Shifting in sport mode when the car thinks you need it also helps since sport mode regenerates the battery quicker.
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How about SMART MODE ? Did you try to drive few days in smart mode to compare is car more responsive on gas vs ECO MODE and is still fuel economy good ?
Never tried smart mode because I do most of my commutes in 100% EV and I hate running the ICE. As per my understanding, Smart mode does select automatically the driving mode that curently matches your driving style and will automatically switch it back.

So this means you do not have to think upfront and switch from ECO to SPORT or vice versa ... the "SMART" mode will set the mode that best suits your actual driving style.
I also seen on a youtube vid that "smart" mode memorizes the last mode you were in when you stopped the car, so it starts back where you left.

I think this mode is intented for drivers that like to "set and forget", but if you guys have more details, would be good to get more knowledge.
Might give it a try tonight.

UPDATE: Just tried the "Smart" mode, for my 27 km commute back home. Its exactly that ... the Smart mode icon colour in the bottom toggles from blue to red according the mode selected by the car. it defaults to blue (for ECO). The only moment it switched to red (SPORT) is when I went in the Power band for a little while to merge on the highway.
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How about SMART MODE ? Did you try to drive few days in smart mode to compare is car more responsive on gas vs ECO MODE and is still fuel economy good ?
good suggestion, drove in smart mode for bout 10km, pedal response much better or perhaps i am just getting used to it being slush box.
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Never tried smart mode because I do most of my commutes in 100% EV and I hate running the ICE. As per my understanding, Smart mode does select automatically the driving mode that curently matches your driving style and will automatically switch it back.

So this means you do not have to think upfront and switch from ECO to SPORT or vice versa ... the "SMART" mode will set the mode that best suits your actual driving style.
I also seen on a youtube vid that "smart" mode memorizes the last mode you were in when you stopped the car, so it starts back where you left.

I think this mode is intented for drivers that like to "set and forget", but if you guys have more details, would be good to get more knowledge.
Might give it a try tonight.

UPDATE: Just tried the "Smart" mode, for my 27 km commute back home. Its exactly that ... the Smart mode icon colour in the bottom toggles from blue to red according the mode selected by the car. it defaults to blue (for ECO). The only moment it switched to red (SPORT) is when I went in the Power band for a little while to merge on the highway.
Thanks for an update
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