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Last car i was running winter and tire summer. This time around my co-worker convince me to try the Nokian WR G4. I will get before next winter as spring is here. He been running it on his SUV for 5+ years now and saying its amazing. The winter driving its pretty good. Apparently most ppl in Finland/Norway run these all year long. And they know a thing or two about the winters. Lol.


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Your thread title might be better: All-Weather Tires vs All-Season. All-Season tires are more properly called 3-season tires. They perform poorly in snow and ice. All-weather tires are true year-round tires. All-season tires are biased toward summer weather where all-weather tires are biased toward snow and ice performance. They have the 3-Peak Mountain Snowflake designation that good snow tires have but they also have a tread life warranty. I put on Toyo Celsius all-weather tires and my car (an Acura RSX at the time) was an absolute tank in the snow and ice. This was in Idaho. I ran the same tires 3 winters in a row and all year round and they performed just as good the third winter as the first. Incredible tires! They gave me such confidence in the winters.

On the down side, the Toyo Celsius tires were expensive. They were a bit harsher riding than the Michelin Primacy tires I had been running. My impression was that the Michelins got slightly better fuel economy but that's hard to measure. The difference was slight. Overall, I'd buy the Toyo Celsius tires again if I still lived in that area.
 

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Last car i was running winter and tire summer. This time around my co-worker convince me to try the Nokian WR G4. I will get before next winter as spring is here. He been running it on his SUV for 5+ years now and saying its amazing. The winter driving its pretty good. Apparently most ppl in Finland/Norway run these all year long. And they know a thing or two about the winters. Lol.


What are your peeps thoughts?
All tires are a trade-off so it depends on your personal driving habits and requirements. I'm retired and have the option to just stay home in really bad weather. I stick with all seasons and renew them before they get too worn. Further, I spend about 5 weeks of the winter in FL so I don't want to look like a Quebecer with their government mandated snow tires in 85° weather.
Nokian is not the only all weather tire. Michelin has one out among others. Personally, I would consider the Michelins when it becomes time to renew but I would probably read some reviews on Tirerack dot com first.
 

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Here in Quebec winters are mandatory. I've had different brands on different vehicles. By far the best are Bridgestone Blizzaks. Put those on an AWD vehicle like a Tucson and you'll never get stuck.
I have Michelin X-Ice for my Mustang. Great tires for snow and ice.
 

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I've had experience with the Toyo Celsius as well. I used to only run all-season tires, but got tired of slipping and sliding on the ice in Michigan, Indiana, Iowa, and everywhere in between. Once switching to the Toyo Celsius all-weather tires on my minivan and station wagon, I didn't have any problems. Where I would normally get stuck I no longer had any problems. The only downside, as mentioned above, was a drop in fuel economy. I'll probably keep the Michelins on my Tucson this winter just to see how they do, but might consider getting back to the Toyo Celsius or something similar if I can't stand the winter performance of the all-seasons.
 
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I have a set of Continental Viking Contact 7s (downsized on 17" rims) for my NLine in addition to the stock 19" Michelins. On my wife's Highlander, we run Kumho Crugen HT51 all-weather tires. I definitely prefer having dedicated winter and summers (we live in Saskatchewan Canada and the winters are brutal).

I find her all weathers to be okay in all areas vs being amazing and their dedicated uses. I did have a set of Nokian WRG2's on an old Altima and they did make a difference on the FWD junker, that's for sure.
 

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Here in Quebec winters are mandatory. I've had different brands on different vehicles. By far the best are Bridgestone Blizzaks. Put those on an AWD vehicle like a Tucson and you'll never get stuck.
The Nokian WR G4 does bare the mandatory "Snow Flake / Mountain" winter certification mark, so they are totally legal in QC.
That being said, the WR G4 is not a dedicated winter tire, it is a compromise.

I run Cooper AT/W (W stands for all year + winter certification) on my pickup truck and they are below average in the winter (read here very bad), but I like them a lot ... because I barely use the pickup in the winter, so its a perfect fit for my needs and I it avoid all the hassle of swaps.

I would never use a 4 season + Winter compromise for my primary ride (Tucson PHEV) in the canadian winters we have in QC. As soon snow falls, I'm the first on the road to head for the ski hills, so I need good rubbers.

A dedicated winter tire will always the best pick for the ultimate winter performance, all-season tires perform poorly on ice, but it depends on you needs. If you want the performance a a winter tire, get a winter tire, not a compromise.
 
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