Might be time to talk to a lawyer.

https://www.davis-stirling.com/HOME/E/Electric-Vehicle-Charging-Stations

Installing EV Chargers at Condos and Apartments in California - Belwood Properties, Inc.

If you live in California, HOAs can’t turn you down if you’re paying for the charging station out of your own pocket.

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https://www.greenlancer.com/post/right-to-charge-laws

From the HOA side: New Legislation: California Paves the Way for Mandatory EV Charging Stations in Existing Buildings

There are lots of plug-in electrical meters. It would probably be on the honor system but you could report your usage to the HOA.

Hope this helps. Us codgers have got to support each other.

 

Dude, the HOA didn't say they couldn't install their own. The ssid they couldn't use common area electrical outlets.

 

Ouch, that sort of policy hits EV & PHEV owners. One is finding a convenient place to charge & the other is alienating the co condo owners who don't have EVs. That seems likely to be an emerging issue. That said, I understand that being a point of contention in a condo. Cap Blight's suggestion of plug in meters seem like a fair & reasonable solution for all condo comrades!

 

Poster is in a complicated situation because not only do they not pay the electric bill they are not wanting to install a charging station.
In Florida if you are not paying the electric bill you can pay for the install of a charging station, pay for a separate service to be installed to that charging station that you pay the ongoing costs, and must have insurance on it that names the Condo association as well as yourself.

The law however does not make the association treat you differently according to articles when the law was enacted, meaning if you can get a complete separate elecric drop, that of course you pay to have installed so you can plug in the EV without a charging station and pay all your electric bill, you are not entitled to an association fee reduction unless the bylaws has a provision for that.

And it appears emerging rulings are if you do have a separate service for charging you have to disclose when selling that all electric costs are not included in your condo if the association usually pays the electric.

 

Our condo board has been "looking into" charging stations for years but so far has taken no action. There is truth on both sides here. Prospective EV owners are effectively limited in their choice of vehicle, and fellow condo owners should not have to subsidize EV owners. Precisely the reason I bought the hybrid.

 

I think a good compromise has been found in these laws so that you can have a charging station installed, that does not cost the HOA or neighbors anything. It could add to the value of your Condo when you sell.
Most Condo's do not have electric paid by the HOA/Association, no need for a new service to be installed, reducing the cost to have a charging station put in, or allows you to plug in directly since you are paying.

 

Not so sure about that, at least here. Other than my 6th floor unit, everything else is common element. An owner has no right to usurp a space for a charger or to have a contractor doing private work anywhere but in your own unit. I was on our board for years so have some knowledge of the situation. Plus we are all in underground parking and there is no additional room for charging stations anyway. The board may eventually decide to put a few outside in one corner of our visitors parking and they would be pay per use. Other locations and situations may be different.

 

That isn't law, at least not in Florida or California no idea other states. If a charger can not be put at the residence it is possible to enforce having it installed in some common areas.
This works BOTH ways - owners can not prevent the HOA from installing them, owners may have a right to install at their parking space.

" The statute provides that the board must approve an owner’s request to install an EVCS in a LCE parking space. However, the statute also states that this approval is subject to certain restrictions such as the installation cannot cause irreparable damage to the condominium and the electricity for the EVCS must be separately metered or metered by an embedded meter and payable by the unit owner installing the EVCS."

"The Condominium Act, Section 718.113 (9) of the Florida Statutes, provides that the board may install an EVCS on the common elements without a unit owner vote."

 

Dumb question: can you make a way to charge from an extension cord run from inside the house? Water heater and dryer both run off 220 volts. Other than that, and hate to say this, I'd sell it.

 

A 12 gauge or better extension would be ok to charge Type 1 - 120V. After asking an electrician and finding these are perfectly safe to use, I use the correct gauge extension to connect my generator directly to my fuse box using a manual generator switch.

The problem the poster has is he is not paying for the electricity, the association is, and they won't allow charging an electric vehicle on their dime.

 

Just in case this is useful............

https://www.tucson-forum.com/threads/outdoor-phev-charging-system.811/?post_id=8758#post-8758

 

Some folks view all EV's in a negative way. They have been known to view pure EV's as highway 'freeloaders' since they don't contribute gas tax $$ to road maintenance and construction. Personally, I could never live under the thumb of a HOA, but I do side with those who own ICE vehicles not wanting to pay for EV-PHEV owners' unique electricity needs.

 

I own a condo used for vacation rentals weekly in the summer. The HOA approved a "no charging" policy because the electricity in the parking garage is paid for by the community (not on a meter to my unit). Although it is slightly different for renters, I agree with this.

My renters without EV's pay for their own gas. The EV owners should pay for their own charging.
I don't think most EV users are looking for "free" charging, but these units are 20 years old and the HOA does not have the funds to upgrade or re-wire for proper charging.
Even if the outlet was attached to my meter, I would not allow charging or would have to make those renters pay more. That would be a headache to track or monitor. No easy answers on this one.

 

I agree with your board. If the electrical outlet is common area The rest of the HOA doesn't owe you a charge. You can install your own EV charger to your parking space. I did. A level 2. Its expensive but doable. The requires the HOA to allow you to split your meter and install one, as long as you have your own individual meter. They don't have to pay for it.