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Hi @stmca and welcome.
OMG .... the EV range question
Seriously, the EV range is dependant of soooooo many factors, all answers are right, but may not apply to your case.
Your range will depend on the driving conditions (your speed, wind, snow or rain, stop and go traffic, your acceleration style, usage of cabin A/C, number of passengers, towing etc.)
I'll share my personal experience and others may complement below. I own the Tucson 2022 PHEV since about 4 weeks. This is my 3rd PHEV car.
Right off the bat, I never get the estimated 54 km. I get about 45km of EV range now in the winter (25% city / 75% Hwy).
I live in the Montreal area, so its been cold here since I own the car. We had a couple snow falls plus a lot of rainy days.
I ride on winter tires and drove with a ski box on my roof for the first 2 weeks of march. A ski box is a MPG killer.
I've been running without the ski box it for the last 2 weeks and EV range is of course better.
The car will give you an estimate of your EV range on the instrument cluster display. This meter is called the GOM (Guess-O-Meter) since they are notorious for being wrong.
The GOM is recalculated as you use the car over time. If you are heavy footed, if you drive 120kmh on the highway, expect the GOM to go down from day to day. Mine is now at 49 km in the morning when I leave home with a full battery. As I drive, the Km on the GOM are decreasing faster than the real Km. So the 49km GOM is more a 45 Km real range.
Highway driving is a range killer, if you drive fast on the highway, this has a great impact on range.
I am usually an energy conscious driver, this means I do respect the hwy speed limits, run in ECO mode and don't do agressive moves.
The only thing I like a lot .... is to zip in first place when the green light turns, even modest, the EV peppy starts are addictive, so this might impact my EV range.
So far, the Tuscon is a wonderful SUV and super economical ride. I love it a lot.
I drove 1,700 km so far and never refueled it ... I've never stopped at a gas station ⛽ since my delivery.
OMG .... the EV range question
Seriously, the EV range is dependant of soooooo many factors, all answers are right, but may not apply to your case.
Your range will depend on the driving conditions (your speed, wind, snow or rain, stop and go traffic, your acceleration style, usage of cabin A/C, number of passengers, towing etc.)
I'll share my personal experience and others may complement below. I own the Tucson 2022 PHEV since about 4 weeks. This is my 3rd PHEV car.
Right off the bat, I never get the estimated 54 km. I get about 45km of EV range now in the winter (25% city / 75% Hwy).
I live in the Montreal area, so its been cold here since I own the car. We had a couple snow falls plus a lot of rainy days.
I ride on winter tires and drove with a ski box on my roof for the first 2 weeks of march. A ski box is a MPG killer.
I've been running without the ski box it for the last 2 weeks and EV range is of course better.
The car will give you an estimate of your EV range on the instrument cluster display. This meter is called the GOM (Guess-O-Meter)
since they are notorious for being wrong. The GOM is recalculated as you use the car over time. If you are heavy footed, if you drive 120kmh on the highway, expect the GOM to go down from day to day. Mine is now at 49 km in the morning when I leave home with a full battery. As I drive, the Km on the GOM are decreasing faster than the real Km. So the 49km GOM is more a 45 Km real range.
Highway driving is a range killer, if you drive fast on the highway, this has a great impact on range.
I am usually an energy conscious driver, this means I do respect the hwy speed limits, run in ECO mode and don't do agressive moves.
The only thing I like a lot .... is to zip in first place when the green light turns, even modest, the EV peppy starts are addictive, so this might impact my EV range.
So far, the Tuscon is a wonderful SUV and super economical ride. I love it a lot.
I drove 1,700 km so far and never refueled it ... I've never stopped at a gas station ⛽ since my delivery.
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Thanks for your time!Hi @stmca and welcome.
OMG .... the EV range question
Seriously, the EV range is dependant of soooooo many factors, all answers are right, but may not apply to your case.
Your range will depend on the driving conditions (your speed, wind, snow or rain, stop and go traffic, your acceleration style, usage of cabin A/C, number of passengers, towing etc.)
I'll share my personal experience and others may complement below. I own the Tucson 2022 PHEV since about 4 weeks. This is my 3rd PHEV car.
Right off the bat, I never get the estimated 54 km. I get about 45km of EV range now in the winter (25% city / 75% Hwy).
I live in the Montreal area, so its been cold here since I own the car. We had a couple snow falls plus a lot of rainy days.
I ride on winter tires and drove with a ski box on my roof for the first 2 weeks of march. A ski box is a MPG killer.
I've been running without the ski box it for the last 2 weeks and EV range is of course better.
The car will give you an estimate of your EV range on the instrument cluster display. This meter is called the GOM (Guess-O-Meter)
The GOM is recalculated as you use the car over time. If you are heavy footed, if you drive 120kmh on the highway, expect the GOM to go down from day to day. Mine is now at 49 km in the morning when I leave home with a full battery. As I drive, the Km on the GOM are decreasing faster than the real Km. So the 49km GOM is more a 45 Km real range.
Highway driving is a range killer, if you drive fast on the highway, this has a great impact on range.
I am usually an energy conscious driver, this means I do respect the hwy speed limits, run in ECO mode and don't do agressive moves.
The only thing I like a lot .... is to zip in first place when the green light turns, even modest, the EV peppy starts are addictive, so this might impact my EV range.
So far, the Tuscon is a wonderful SUV and super economical ride. I love it a lot.
I drove 1,700 km so far and never refueled it ... I've never stopped at a gas station ⛽ since my delivery.
I think 45 km in winter is good, i live in GTA area and used to drive a Ford cmax phev and i was getting only 40km in nice weather about 50% less in winter; I watched some youtube videos where some people were getting 76 km ev range in summer....what do you think? Good to know the car is peppy in ev mode, I was oncerned about acceleration in ev mode since I didn't have a chance to test drive the car...I just placed the order for my Tucson phev but will be probably end of the year...
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I currently drive a 2020 Ioniq ev, great car but with no headroom for a 6'3'' tall guy...i was debating between new Ioniq 5 and Tucson phev....Tucson phev is $15,000 less same trim and more spacious inside and like it better...
Glad you appreciate
I just love the science behind this stuff.
I saw the 70Km+ YouTube video you are referring too, it is not a typical north american case scenario.
The video of 76 km EV range is exactly my point when i said "all answers are right, but may not apply to your case "
- 1st this is probably a small wheel base Tucson (in europe the Tucson is smaller), not the long wheel base we have in north america.
- 2nd In this video, he never exceeds 80kmh for the most part, so this is ideal for better EV range. The slower you drive, the more EV range you will get. He took more than 2-1/2 hours to drive only 70 km.
- 3rd If you look at the dash in the Vid, his needle on the right gauge almost never reaches the upper "Power" range. So he is a very gentle driver. I personally push the pedal until most of the time until it kisses the power zone to keep up with traffic.
Key is, the faster you go, the faster you accel, the worst EV range you will get. Its just the science of "Power = Mass x acceleration"
Each time your top speed increases by 10 kmh for a given range, expect a 10% range decrease in range (rough math)
So, assume he gets 76km EV range at 80kmh.
If you drive 110kmh instead, assume a 30% decrease in range (76 km EV range x 70%) = 53.2Km at 110kmh
Does 53.2km EV range sounds familiar to the EPA rating 😝
In my area, driving at indicated hwy speeds is often not possible. Other drivers are faster and aggressive, so if I don't speed up a little to follow the flow, I'm kinda of a nuisance, so I go with the flow.
Slowing down is a major energy saver 🌿.
Once people would be smart enough to figure that by slowing down for their their commute, it would be only a couple minutes longer and they would save 20% on fuel, my hope in humanity might come back.
I never did a test drive either prior to my purchase and saw it for the 1st time at delivery. I was super happy and have 0 regrets. The only thing I miss is the regen paddles from my previous PHEV's (Outlander 2018 and Ioniq 2020). The Ioniq was just wonderfull for regen, but like @stmca says, it is small, this is why I changed it.
The only thing you will hate is the power liftgate on the Tucson (because I do and I'm only 6 ft).
It does not lifts high enough to clear my head ... 😡
The Ioniq PHEV is a MPG wonder, I use to do 4,000 km on a single tank with this little thing.
The Tuscon will probably give me 2,000km between refuels as of my actual "unscientific" stats.
I think I saw in the manual that there was some sort of configuration setting regarding how high the lift gate is set to open. Assuming I am not just making that up, have you tried changing that setting?
Yes, tried them all. Even full open is too low. I asked the question to a hyndai seller on YouTube that makes tons of good vids about the car and its a common complaint.
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I'm a gentle driver, so I'm expecting to get a decent ev range, If I can get anywhere between 50-60 km, will cover my daily comute, probably less in winter; I was also looking at Ford Escape PHEV, but didn't have awd option and interior looks less attractive than Tucson, otherwise a good efficient phev, maybe a bit more range than Tucson.Glad you appreciate
I just love the science behind this stuff.
I saw the 70Km+ YouTube video you are referring too, it is not a typical north american case scenario.
The video of 76 km EV range is exactly my point when i said "all answers are right, but may not apply to your case "
- 1st this is probably a small wheel base Tucson (in europe the Tucson is smaller), not the long wheel base we have in north america.
- 2nd In this video, he never exceeds 80kmh for the most part, so this is ideal for better EV range. The slower you drive, the more EV range you will get. He took more than 2-1/2 hours to drive only 70 km.
- 3rd If you look at the dash in the Vid, his needle on the right gauge almost never reaches the upper "Power" range. So he is a very gentle driver. I personally push the pedal until most of the time until it kisses the power zone to keep up with traffic.
Key is, the faster you go, the faster you accel, the worst EV range you will get. Its just the science of "Power = Mass x acceleration"
Each time your top speed increases by 10 kmh for a given range, expect a 10% range decrease in range (rough math)
So, assume he gets 76km EV range at 80kmh.
If you drive 110kmh instead, assume a 30% decrease in range (76 km EV range x 70%) = 53.2Km at 110kmh
Does 53.2km EV range sounds familiar to the EPA rating 😝
In my area, driving at indicated hwy speeds is often not possible. Other drivers are faster and aggressive, so if I don't speed up a little to follow the flow, I'm kinda of a nuisance, so I go with the flow.
Slowing down is a major energy saver 🌿.
Once people would be smart enough to figure that by slowing down for their their commute, it would be only a couple minutes longer and they would save 20% on fuel, my hope in humanity might come back.
I never did a test drive either prior to my purchase and saw it for the 1st time at delivery. I was super happy and have 0 regrets. The only thing I miss is the regen paddles from my previous PHEV's (Outlander 2018 and Ioniq 2020). The Ioniq was just wonderfull for regen, but like @stmca says, it is small, this is why I changed it.
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