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Hi everyone. I have a question for any owners of the PHEV model. Is there a way to get the car to drive only on electric power? I haven’t found one to test drive yet, but was able to drive a Santa Fe PHEV, and it seemed like the gas engine was kicking in at times even on ‘electric’ mode. Any insights from owners would be appreciated. The salesperson wasn’t that helpful in answering the question.
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There is button/toggle button on the armest console that lets you change the driving mode to EV. Once you put the vehicle in that mode it will try to stay in EV only mode unless you turn on the climate controls or the battery gets low. This is the mode I keep mine in.
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The plug in hybrid is still a hybrid. It is not a full electric car. If you run short trips daily and fully charge overnight, or can charge your vehicle during the day like at work, you could theoretically drive continuously under electric power. I believe there is a setting for electric mode but if you do a trip that exceeds the max electric only capability, (about 30 miles or so max) the car will function like the regular Tucson Hybrid. Added demands on the battery such as heated or cooled seats or a/c will shorten your range. Also if you run the heater it will require the gas engine to warm up to provide the heat. Your plug in hybrid has an advantage over an electric car because you can still drive when your battery taps out. Granted, a full electric car has a longer range, but with a hybrid you can still do long trips without the long charging stops that an electric vehicle requires. if you mainly do short trips you will like the plug in but if you have a long commute or do a lot of long distance traveling you will not see much benefit from the plug in.
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My commute is about 26km each way and if I do not have the climate control on (but the electric seats and the heated steering wheel), I can go back and forth to work without the gas engine running at all.
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The plug in hybrid is still a hybrid. It is not a full electric car. If you run short trips daily and fully charge overnight, or can charge your vehicle during the day like at work, you could theoretically drive continuously under electric power. I believe there is a setting for electric mode but if you do a trip that exceeds the max electric only capability, (about 30 miles or so max) the car will function like the regular Tucson Hybrid. Added demands on the battery such as heated or cooled seats or a/c will shorten your range. Also if you run the heater it will require the gas engine to warm up to provide the heat. Your plug in hybrid has an advantage over an electric car because you can still drive when your battery taps out. Granted, a full electric car has a longer range, but with a hybrid you can still do long trips without the long charging stops that an electric vehicle requires. if you mainly do short trips you will like the plug in but if you have a long commute or do a lot of long distance traveling you will not see much benefit from the plug in.
Thanks for the reply . Yeah- we are looking at aPHEV for the convenience on long drives.
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I believe even if you set it in electric mode, if you really gun it on the throttle the car will need to use the gas engine.
Same reason that the gas engine will automatically operate if you do highway driving (regardless if you're still fully charged). The electric motor alone is not powerful enough in certain situations.
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Just took delivery of my PHEV in Canada (Toronto). With colder weather battery does run done faster but easy enough to charge at home. With fast charge it takes around 2.5 hours if down to around 17%. Went of trip to Detroit last week & on Highway used hybrid in "auto" mode. It charged the battery while on highway in cruise & not breaking. Not fully charged but stayed around 30%. Enjoy
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I believe even if you set it in electric mode, if you really gun it on the throttle the car will need to use the gas engine.
Same reason that the gas engine will automatically operate if you do highway driving (regardless if you're still fully charged). The electric motor alone is not powerful enough in certain situations.
The gas engine won't kick in as quickly as the regular hybrid since the plug in traction motor is much more powerful and the battery is larger.
Just took delivery of my PHEV in Canada (Toronto). With colder weather battery does run done faster but easy enough to charge at home. With fast charge it takes around 2.5 hours if down to around 17%. Went of trip to Detroit last week & on Highway used hybrid in "auto" mode. It charged the battery while on highway in cruise & not breaking. Not fully charged but stayed around 30%. Enjoy
What was fuel economy on auto mode on hwy ?
What was fuel economy on auto mode on hwy ?
It was around 7.5 tires to 100 kms or around 32 miles per gallon in cold weather.
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Our phev Tucson 4 weeks old with fully charged battery will not stay in ev even when travelling around town at 30 or less how do we get it to stay in ev. Weather is fairly mild around 5 to 12 degrees so no probs with that. Have turned off all heating but still switches between petrol and ev all the time.
These are really good comments! I currently have the 2022 regular Tucson and I am enjoying it! I am considering getting the PHEV, since I drive around town (Mostly 5-10 miles every other day, 30 miles twice a month). I do keep the climate control at a certain temperature and do not turn it off.

If I am trying to use all electricity, would that be possible if climate control is on?
Would the gasoline get old after a while if I don't use any?

Thanks!
I would say depending on where you live and the tempratures are, you may be able to get away with all electic. Definitly if you are not using the climate control it will be alot easier to say in all electric. I will say even when I had the climate control off, the engine did still run occassionally so I a not sure it woud be possible to stay completely on EV all the time.

In Canada, I use Gas Stabilizer, for things like our lawn mower, snow blower, etc. It extends the life of the gas to 6 months. I did have a mechanic tell me that gas does not go bad but then my father always told me it does. Take your pick of which one to believe.
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Our phev Tucson 4 weeks old with fully charged battery will not stay in ev even when travelling around town at 30 or less how do we get it to stay in ev. Weather is fairly mild around 5 to 12 degrees so no probs with that. Have turned off all heating but still switches between petrol and ev all the time.
Had the same issue until I figured out the AWD button was on. Once I turned that off, drove about 25 miles encompassing a number of stops without using any gas in a 27 F degree day. Heat off, but seat heater on.
Our phev Tucson 4 weeks old with fully charged battery will not stay in ev even when travelling around town at 30 or less how do we get it to stay in ev. Weather is fairly mild around 5 to 12 degrees so no probs with that. Have turned off all heating but still switches between petrol and ev all the time.
Hi there Mike,

We are UK-based and about to order a PHEV but coming across a couple of threads re. the petrol engine kicking in for various reasons (e.g. if turning heating on or even accelerating too hard); we naively thought that once in EV, it would stay in EV permanently so I was wondering if you found a solution to your problem or if is still doing the same? Our main reason for buying the PHEV is because we drive mostly around town so we thought we would then be able to do full electric but if this is not the case, then it kind of defeats the purpose...

Thank you very much for your help,
Maria
I am finding with my PHEV that is really does try to stay in EV mode when it can but there are so many factors that cause the gasoline engine to start. If I wanted a pure EV then I would have bought a pure EV at a premium cost. Over 3000km, with one of the coldest winters have had here in Alberta, I am still happy with the fuel economy. With Gasoline at $1.43/litre I am only spending about $20 every 2 to 2 1/2 weeks. With my previous gasoline vechile, which was about the same size/weight of the Tucson I was paying betwen $25-$30 per week so I am more than happy with the economy of my PHEV. Do I wish it would stay in pure EV more of the time YES but at the end of the day I am looking at ther over all cost compared to my previous vehilce and I am happy.

Just my 2 cents.
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These are really good comments! I currently have the 2022 regular Tucson and I am enjoying it! I am considering getting the PHEV, since I drive around town (Mostly 5-10 miles every other day, 30 miles twice a month). I do keep the climate control at a certain temperature and do not turn it off.

If I am trying to use all electricity, would that be possible if climate control is on?
Would the gasoline get old after a while if I don't use any?

Thanks!
If you are concern about gasoline getting old, just top off gas tank to 1/8 or 1/4 or 1/2. If a long trip, top it to full.
If you don't want to use any gas get a true EV. The PHEV will try to stay in EV mode as best it can depending on the situations. The biggest being the Climate Control. If I drive with my climate control OFF, most of the time the vehicle will stay in EV mode. That being said in the winter when it was -35 celcius in Edmonton, evem with the climate control off (which I only did to see what would happen otherwise i would have froze to death), the Gas engine has to run to get the engine up to temperature. I think if people are looking for a vehicle to run in EV mode only the don't buy a PHEV as you never get it to run in EV mode 100% of the time.
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Well, if I may weigh in here (I just wrote another post before seeing this one) @maryeta and @kevinrobedm : my previous car was a 2017 Volt Gen 2 (which Chevy discontinued mysteriously) and if you asked it to stay in EV, it stayed in EV, no matter what. Climate control on or off, freezing cold or searing hot temperatures, and even in Sport mode with a heavy foot. The pure electric range suffered in these situations of course, but the ICE would not kick in if you chose EV mode. So I think it’s a bit surprising with the Tucson and probably a manufacturer’s choice (to deliver on advertised EV range) but it seems to me Hyundai could do the same on the Tucson PHEV. I may be wrong of course (?) Great car otherwise this new Tucson, I love it! Just wished it allowed pure EV on demand.
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