[flightsim1718]

Would doing this void the warrenty in any way?

 

[Grfxguy]

If you're talking about the film in front of the speaker, I wouldn't think so. You're not making any physical alterations to anything that impacts whether it works or not.

 

[flightsim1718]

If you're talking about the film in front of the speaker, I wouldn't think so. You're not making any physical alterations to anything that impacts whether it works or not.

Yep, that's what I meant. Thanks!

 

[lcbenz]

I've posted the hack before, but here ya go... The Virtual Engine Sound System, or VESS, was mandated by the NHTSA for EVs and Hybrids a couple of years back. Hyundai added the VESS speaker in the front of he car, but overcompensated with the sound so as not to require a rear speaker. This was accomplished by cranking up the volume to about 95 dBA! The requirement is approximately 56 dBA, so this was overkill. I thought of several ways to lower this sound because disabling a safety system is a no-no, not to mention the single fuse controls about 5 things. I decided to use a closed cell rubber pad with adhesive on one side. They can be purchased here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07V2XF895/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1 You'll need to cut them down from 6" x 6" to approximately 5" x 5" with a pair of scissors. Remove the adhesive covering and slide the piece through the grill and simply align it onto the VESS speaker (on the driver's side, behind the front grill) and press it onto the VESS surface, being sure to cover the entire face. Once it is secured in place the volume will be reduced to approximately 56 dBA. This is plenty loud enough to alert folks without sounding like a trash truck in reverse! I've had mine on for about 6-months with no sign of wear or movement, but you'll have spares should it fall off.

We went with 3M vinyl wrap film in matte black: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078X3Z1XX?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details I figured it was made to take the elements, which is a good thing considering its located front & center behind the grill, taking whatever Mother Nature dishes out on the road often @70+MPH!... 2 layers softened the sound to be quite tolerable and there was plenty leftover for future replacement, if needed.

 

[subliminll]

I just posted my solution.

2022 Tucson Hybrid VESS backup alarm Mod

Hello Everyone, I really enjoy taking my Hybrid Tucson camping and visiting National parks and outdoor areas. One thing that I absolutely hate is arriving at the campsite ( god forbid it's late at night or early morning) and having to back up with the VESS disturbing the peace of nearby campers...

www.tucson-forum.com

 

[22HybridMN]

I went the neoprene pad route and I believe it reduced the volume by half. I'm OK with that as there's still some warning, just not nearly as annoying.

 

[mungo555444]

All Tucson Hybrid owners will fully enjoy this ultra-annoying gift to the sane world by Grandma Pelosi. Do the research. While everyone can empathize with the disabled among us navigating through a modern world, the VESS siren was a major goal by lobbyists hired by the national blind/deaf organizations back around 2010/11. It was one of the first Woke pieces of legislation pushed in the 111th Congress and signed into law by Obama. The Trump administration killed it for a time but, you guessed it, it later received a second life and the manufacturing rule was implemented with a vengeance.

Love the hybrid, hate the government interference - same as bringing those pet peacocks onto a crowded aircraft. Has the world gone PC mad? My neighbors down the block think so, especially when I make a Dunkin’ run at 7 a.m. daily.

Please take this stuff somewhere else.

 

[wnshall]

All Tucson Hybrid owners will fully enjoy this ultra-annoying gift to the sane world by Grandma Pelosi. Do the research. While everyone can empathize with the disabled among us navigating through a modern world, the VESS siren was a major goal by lobbyists hired by the national blind/deaf organizations back around 2010/11. It was one of the first Woke pieces of legislation pushed in the 111th Congress and signed into law by Obama. The Trump administration killed it for a time but, you guessed it, it later received a second life and the manufacturing rule was implemented with a vengeance. Love the hybrid, hate the government interference - same as bringing those pet peacocks onto a crowded aircraft. Has the world gone PC mad? My neighbors down the block think so, especially when I make a Dunkin’ run at 7 a.m. daily.

As far as I can tell, there's nothing in the rule that requires the back-up beeping. The rule, similar to rules developed by other countries and the EU, simply require some artificial noise at low speeds. So the issue for Hyundai is why deploy an annoying back-up beeping sound when it's not required, or at least allow users to turn it off since it's not required for compliance with the NHTSA rule. Here's info from NHTSA about the rule: https://www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.gov/files/documents/812347-minimumsoundrequirements.pdf

 

[flightsim1718]

As far as I can tell, there's nothing in the rule that requires the back-up beeping. The rule, similar to rules developed by other countries and the EU, simply require some artificial noise at low speeds. So the issue for Hyundai is why deploy an annoying back-up beeping sound when it's not required, or at least allow users to turn it off since it's not required for compliance with the NHTSA rule. Here's info from NHTSA about the rule: https://www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.gov/files/documents/812347-minimumsoundrequirements.pdf

The alarm in EU sounds better and is also quieter... I think.

 

[Captain Blight]

As far as I can tell, there's nothing in the rule that requires the back-up beeping. The rule, similar to rules developed by other countries and the EU, simply require some artificial noise at low speeds. So the issue for Hyundai is why deploy an annoying back-up beeping sound when it's not required, or at least allow users to turn it off since it's not required for compliance with the NHTSA rule. Here's info from NHTSA about the rule: https://www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.gov/files/documents/812347-minimumsoundrequirements.pdf

If you search the NHTSA document for the word "reverse" you will find the requirements.

Hyundai just cheaped out and put a single speaker in the front of the car, which has to be loud enough to meet the standards at the rear of the car.

 

[Tampa8]

If you search the NHTSA document for the word "reverse" you will find the requirements.

Hyundai just cheaped out and put a single speaker in the front of the car, which has to be loud enough to meet the standards at the rear of the car.

Exactly! Where the speaker is isn't regulated it has to at least a certain sound level measured from a set distance in the rear when backing up and in front when going forward.

 

[2023TucsonHybrid]

We went with 3M vinyl wrap film in matte black: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078X3Z1XX?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details Have you found this to hold up well?

 

[2023TucsonHybrid]

We went with 3M vinyl wrap film in matte black:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078X3Z1XX?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

Have you found this wrap to hold up well over the past few months since you first used it?

 

[MoeK]

Duct tape. (Or Gorilla Tape.)

Pull pluc/ connector out

 

[tucson715]

Has anyone gotten into the habit of gunning it in reverse for one beep then hitting neutral to coast the rest of the way back without the sound to avoid disturbing neighbors, wildlife, etc.?

 

[SethD2005]

Has anyone gotten into the habit of gunning it in reverse for one beep then hitting neutral to coast the rest of the way back without the sound to avoid disturbing neighbors, wildlife, etc.?

I have not, but I might now lol

 

[GeneKey]

Have you found this wrap to hold up well over the past few months since you first used it?

I used this one (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08P1XNMF8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1) - installed it a year ago, still works magic ( it silenced beep around 50%) and holds well.

 

[Clark]

I just used one of these foam pads to muffle the speaker on my 23 PHEV. Didn't even have to trim it - stuffed it into the center area of the grill (in front of the radiator), removed the backing and slid it to the right to cover the speaker, then pressed it firmly all around the edges. It took a little doing, but wasn't bad at all.
I'd say it works VERY well. Doesn't silence the back up alarm completely, but you can stand in front of the car without jumping out of your skin when it gets put into reverse. The sound gets muffled down to a reasonably soft "beep". The VESS sound was a bit quieter than the tires on the pavement.
Very happy with this (after one day).

 

[renolefty]

I just used one of these foam pads to muffle the speaker on my 23 PHEV. Didn't even have to trim it - stuffed it into the center area of the grill (in front of the radiator), removed the backing and slid it to the right to cover the speaker, then pressed it firmly all around the edges. It took a little doing, but wasn't bad at all.
I'd say it works VERY well. Doesn't silence the back up alarm completely, but you can stand in front of the car without jumping out of your skin when it gets put into reverse. The sound gets muffled down to a reasonably soft "beep". The VESS sound was a bit quieter than the tires on the pavement.
Very happy with this (after one day).

What size did you use? 4X4? I got the 6X6 and they are too large to fit through the grille.

 

[Clark]

What size did you use? 4X4? I got the 6X6 and they are too large to fit through the grille.

I did use the 6x6 (didn't even notice that other sizes were available). I don't think 4x4 would do the job.

It does take some wrestling to get the pad through the grille. (That's why I didn't take the backing off first - the adhesive would have stuck to everything during the wrestle.) It also takes a bit of doing to get the backing off the pad once it is behind the grille. Peeling back one corner of the backing before putting it behind the grille does help. Much longer and more flexible fingers than I have would also help.

Once the backing is off the pad and it is oriented correctly, slide the foam pad to the right into the speaker compartment. The adhesive will try to stick to that vertical piece of plastic between the radiator and the VESS speaker, so you'll need patience to work the foam past that. Once you clear that hurdle, you just press the foam firmly over the speaker and you're done.