[Tampa8]

Today I came to appreciate yet another facet of the way my adaptive cruise control (ACC) works. It certainly works better than my Dodge Challenger's ACC did (I sold it). When I have the ACC engaged, cars are constantly cutting in front of me. Since I keep a 3-4 second gap between my car and those in front of me, everybody wants to jump in my lane. I'm fine with that: part of the price I pay to drive safe and stay off my brakes, if that makes sense. But I'm especially glad that the Tucson's ACC doesn't slam on the brakes each time they do this.

Same. Sometimes people do pull in front of me, but I've come to like not following so close, and let the advance cruise do it's thing while I dance to the music....

 

[garyahouse]

In elelmentary school, there were consequences to taking cuts. I recall the teacher saying, "You, mister, can go to the end of the line." I learned my lesson in a hurry. Wouldn't it be amazing if that same teacher showed up to deal with those pulling the same stunt in traffic?

 

[Tampa8]

Many of those times the person has to plan ahead to get into the correct lane to make a turn so they take the opportunity.

 

[garyahouse]

Many of those times the person has to plan ahead to get into the correct lane to make a turn so they take the opportunity.

I'll grant you that. If I were to throw a statistic at it, I'd guess that people who cut into the space (that I leave ahead of me) do so cuz they're in a hurry perhaps 80% of the time. That indeed leaves some who are just trying to get over. Even so, I don't fuss over such things much... at least not like I did when I was younger and all too often in a terrible hurry. I guess I've gotten a little more mello in my later years. It's just not much of an issue, thanks in part to a well sorted out system in my Tucson that doesn't slam on the brakes when others cut in front of me.

 

[Danco]

I'll grant you that. If I were to throw a statistic at it, I'd guess that people who cut into the space (that I leave ahead of me) do so cuz they're in a hurry perhaps 80% of the time. That indeed leaves some who are just trying to get over. Even so, I don't fuss over such things much... at least not like I did when I was younger and all too often in a terrible hurry. I guess I've gotten a little more mello in my later years. It's just not much of an issue, thanks in part to a well sorted out system in my Tucson that doesn't slam on the brakes when others cut in front of me.

It's the ones who cross over multiple lanes at once, without even using their turn signals that p*ss me off the most...

 

[garyahouse]

LIGHT 'EM UP
Finished installing my new lights: a new LED for the cargo and rear dome light, new LED's for the back up lights, and new LEDs for the rear turn signals. Yay me !!! I was really dissatisfied with the cargo light, so thought I'd brighten up several lights that needed a boost.
On another unrelated note, installed my Snap-Shot device from Progressive insurance today. It plugs into my OBD port under the dash and monitors how I drive. In a couple months, I'll disconnect it and send it back to Progressive. Hopefully I'll be able to enjoy a nice discount on my insurance rates. They never told me how much that might be, but we'll find out I guess.

Funny story if ya got a minute. A month ago, I activated Snap Shot through my iPhone. However, I learned afterwards that it records how I drive every time I'm on the road, including my motorcycle. I checked my record about a week after activating and was SHOCKED to find that I'd been "flagged" like a zillion times for acceleration. At first I couldn't figure it out because I drive the Tucson like gramma. But after checking just which trips it was recording, I finally realized that it was recording every trip I took on my Gold Wing as well. OOPS.

Compared to the Tucson, it accelerates too fast even when I just barely crack the throttle. But I am happy to announce that when I called Progressive to protest, they deleted all the files and allowed me to start over by turning off the phone app, and rather plugging their older model Snap Shot device (came in mail yesterday) into the Tucson's OBD port. Now it ONLY records my driving in the car.

Now before I get all sorts of advice about riding a little slower, I never break the speed limit or tailgate or pass other vehicles like some meat head on the Honda. I drive carefully and defensively. But I do use the throttle once in awhile, and as you know even a relatively slow and heavy motorycycle like the Gold Wing is a rocket compared to the Tucson... Maybe I need a new forum handle?

Rocket man

 

[Tucspouse]

Sorry gary-
You're already now on Apple's Watchlist as a suspected member of the infamous 'Gramma's Angels'
If you're to have the name, then you should have the game. Maybe that's the new handle.

And done did the cargo & Reverse/Tails LED Swaps maybe the 3rd week we had it. Some remarked it made the brakes so brilliant it might surprise and upset people behind. I was torn between replies of, "And your point being...." or, "Well quoting our Pres. Bush, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!"

 

[garyahouse]

Hmm now ya got me thinkin'. I didn't do anything with the brake lights.
Gramma's angels. Now there's and interesting play on words. Reminds me of the "Little old lady from Pasadena." However, can't say much about her shiny new Super Stock Dodge as I sold my SRT392 Challenger and bought a Tucson. Guess I'm slowing down in my old age.

 

[Tucspouse]

Two words: Project. Car.
Picture something like what you might have done with your adolescent coming up. But no rush to finish for them getting their license, so go as slow as desired. And this one you get to keep when it's done! Brilliant!

 

[garyahouse]

Just filled the tank again. Interesting thing I noticed: every time I fill the tank I get just a little better mileage; just now passed 2k miles. Probably just a coincidence as there's too many variables at play, but it makes me wonder as many have said that the mileage is supposed to improve as the engine gets broken in. Hmmm...

 

[Thunderbolt5523]

LIGHT 'EM UP
Finished installing my new lights: a new LED for the cargo and rear dome light, new LED's for the back up lights, and new LEDs for the rear turn signals. Yay me !!! I was really dissatisfied with the cargo light, so thought I'd brighten up several lights that needed a boost.
On another unrelated note, installed my Snap-Shot device from Progressive insurance today. It plugs into my OBD port under the dash and monitors how I drive. In a couple months, I'll disconnect it and send it back to Progressive. Hopefully I'll be able to enjoy a nice discount on my insurance rates. They never told me how much that might be, but we'll find out I guess.

Funny story if ya got a minute. A month ago, I activated Snap Shot through my iPhone. However, I learned afterwards that it records how I drive every time I'm on the road, including my motorcycle. I checked my record about a week after activating and was SHOCKED to find that I'd been "flagged" like a zillion times for acceleration. At first I couldn't figure it out because I drive the Tucson like gramma. But after checking just which trips it was recording, I finally realized that it was recording every trip I took on my Gold Wing as well. OOPS.

Compared to the Tucson, it accelerates too fast even when I just barely crack the throttle. But I am happy to announce that when I called Progressive to protest, they deleted all the files and allowed me to start over by turning off the phone app, and rather plugging their older model Snap Shot device (came in mail yesterday) into the Tucson's OBD port. Now it ONLY records my driving in the car.

Now before I get all sorts of advice about riding a little slower, I never break the speed limit or tailgate or pass other vehicles like some meat head on the Honda. I drive carefully and defensively. But I do use the throttle once in awhile, and as you know even a relatively slow and heavy motorycycle like the Gold Wing is a rocket compared to the Tucson... Maybe I need a new forum handle?

Rocket man

Have you posted any pics of your LED conversion?
Parts source or sku #'s?
Sounds like an interesting and useful modification

 

[Tampa8]

Have you posted any pics of your LED conversion?
Parts source or sku #'s?
Sounds like an interesting and useful modification

There is a thread here (maybe more than one) that has posts and pictures all about it. Many of us have done it.

 

[garyahouse]

Have you posted any pics of your LED conversion?
Parts source or sku #'s?
Sounds like an interesting and useful modification

I didn't post the "difference," that is the before and after of how bright the lights were, but trust me: it's huge. We talked about it at length here CLICKY, and I posted some how-to piccies as well as just what I bought and where.

 

[garyahouse]

Another item: I appreciate all the extra leg room in the back seat. When four-year-old grandson Allen is strapped in his car seat, his little feet can't reach the back of the front seats. That prevents footprints all over the back of the seats and also prevents his kicking whomever is sitting in said front seat. That is worth shouting about.

 

[retiredsigndude]

No goofy button to push to open the gas filler door. Finally !!! Was thinking about that when I filled the tank for the first time today.

Tonight I used the remote (for the first time) to unlock the car as I was approaching it. As soon as I did, little lights came on inside the front door handles so I could find them. YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME !!! I had no idea the Hyundai had all this cool stuff.

Isn't it interesting that this car has so many little things that Hyundai built into it that make it just a cut above? I've never owned a vehicle like this: feeling blessed indeed.

The handle lights will come on upon approach (w/ key on person). No need to use the fob. Ladies can keep it in their purses, and the door will unlock upon grabbing handle, which will be lighted upon approach. Wireless connectivity means you can keep the fob in your purse, and start/drive/unlock the door. And you can train your Iphone to do it, too, and you won't need the fob.

 

[garyahouse]

The handle lights will come on upon approach (w/ key on person). No need to use the fob. Ladies can keep it in their purses, and the door will unlock upon grabbing handle, which will be lighted upon approach. Wireless connectivity means you can keep the fob in your purse, and start/drive/unlock the door. And you can train your Iphone to do it, too, and you won't need the fob.

How 'bout that? The blessings continue. Love those handle lights.
Also loving my super bright turn signal lights. Thanks to the recommendation of this forum, I bought some extra bright LEDs online and they work great. It concerned me that the rear turn signals are positioned lower than I would like, and feel somewhat safer now that they're at least brighter.
My new brighter LED back up lights really help when backing up at night. Certainly thankful for the input from this forum.

 

[AsherN]

Another little item:
Have been carefully documenting my fuel mileage at each fill up with my calculator. I've commented on it many times on these pages. However, there's some new information that is far more accurate. Thus far at 1500 miles on the clock, the computer is telling me I'm averaging 34 mpg since the car was new. However, my calculator is telling me it's closer to 30.
HMMM... Seems that the computer is rather optimistic:
----- the calculator don't lie folks. Miles driven over gallons used equals mileage: end of story... no matter what the computer seems to think.

The calculator lies. Temperature affects volume next time you fill up, look at the pump. It will say "Volume adjusted to xx degrees". Different pumps stop at different times. Speed of flow also affects this. Recomendation for accurate MPG calculations tell you to fill up at the same time of day at the same pump.

 

[garyahouse]

The calculator lies. Temperature affects volume next time you fill up, look at the pump. It will say "Volume adjusted to xx degrees". Different pumps stop at different times. Speed of flow also affects this. Recomendation for accurate MPG calculations tell you to fill up at the same time of day at the same pump.

Thank you Ash. Can a calculator lie? Well, yes and no. But the "proof" you offfered can only account for a one half of one percent (approx 1/8 of a mpg) error at best.

NEED PROOF? KEEP READING...This will occur where there are temperature extremes. Here in Florida, we don't have them.
Consider this: every state mandates accuracy testing for gas pumps. Generally, they must be accurate within 3 ounces per 5 gallons. This amounts to the figure I gave above. Consider the guys in charge. The pump will likely NEVER give more than exactly the right amount: any allowable error will be in THEIR favor. So they will likely always give less, but only to the allowable limit. The penalties for getting this wrong are severe. But how much less? Again: max of 3 oz., or less than a half percent total. The math? 3oz divide 640 (oz in 5 gal) = .00469 (you can trust me here, I was certified to teach math, though I chose to teach reading instead).

Now, that means that my gas mileage might be off by 1/2 percent at the worst... because of pump error: and likely less than that. What's 1/2 of one percent of 30 mpg? Do the math, sir. It's roughly 1/8 of one mile per gallon.

That said, the more likely issue is just how much I fill the tank each time: hard to know when it's "full." This can account for huge inaccuracies. Therefore the figures I provided reflect a combination of every fill since the car was new... all added together.

My calculator is therefore accurate sir.

 

[AsherN]

Thank you Ash. Can a calculator lie? Well, yes and no. But the "proof" you offfered can only account for a one half of one percent error at best.

NEED PROOF? KEEP READING...This will occur where there are temperature extremes. Here in Florida, we don't have them.
Consider this: every state mandates accuracy testing for gas pumps. Generally, they must be accurate within 3 ounces per 5 gallons. This amounts to the figure I gave above. Consider the guys in charge. The pump will likely NEVER give more than exactly the right amount: any allowable error will be in THEIR favor. So they will likely always give less, but only to the allowable limit. The penalties for getting this wrong are severe. But how much less? Again: max of 3 oz., or less than a half percent total. The math? 3oz divide 640 (oz in 5 gal) = .00469 (you can trust me here, I was certified to teach math, though I chose to teach reading instead).

Now, that means that my gas mileage might be off by 1/2 percent at the worst... because of pump error: and likely less than that. What's 1/2 of one percent of 30 mpg? Do the math, sir. It's 1/8 of one mile per gallon.

That said, the more likely issue is just how much I fill the tank each time: hard to know when it's "full." This can account for huge inaccuracies. Therefore the figures I provided reflect a combination of every fill since the car was new... all added together.

My calculator is therefore accurate sir.

The calculator does not lie in a sense that you tell it how much gas you put in and how far you've driven. That's grade 2 math right there. But remember, GIGO. The "how much gas" part of the equation can lie. Different pumps will trigger the stop at different times. The car measure the flow of gas. The pump stops when it senses back pressure. In theory, if you use the same pump at the same time of day, the number of gallons pumped should be consistent. But if you use different pumps, different time of day, and different stations, that number will vary. You fill up and it stops at 10 gallon. You did put 10 gallon in the tank. But that's not necessarily what the car actually used from last fill up. That's only what the pump delivered before it detected enough back pressure and stopped. We've all encountered pumps that we have to baby to get them to flow properly.

 

[Tampa8]

The calculator does not lie in a sense that you tell it how much gas you put in and how far you've driven. That's grade 2 math right there. But remember, GIGO. The "how much gas" part of the equation can lie. Different pumps will trigger the stop at different times. The car measure the flow of gas. The pump stops when it senses back pressure. In theory, if you use the same pump at the same time of day, the number of gallons pumped should be consistent. But if you use different pumps, different time of day, and different stations, that number will vary. You fill up and it stops at 10 gallon. You did put 10 gallon in the tank. But that's not necessarily what the car actually used from last fill up. That's only what the pump delivered before it detected enough back pressure and stopped. We've all encountered pumps that we have to baby to get them to flow properly.

Yep, that.
It isn't about not getting the correct amount, it's the more or less getting into the tank at shutoff that changes based on that pump, temperature etc.

I think I can explain the confusion on this. Over time, if you keep track of your mileage by using the shutoff method it will almost certainly even out - sometimes you will think you are getting a little better mpg sometimes less, sometimes near exact. In the end you are pretty close to the mpg.

But if you now compare a fill up to the computer each time, that's where the shutoff comes into play. It no longer is over a period of time where it evens out. What if that day it shut off late so you think you got a little less mileage but the computer knows how much you actually used and says the mpg is a little higher. The computer could be closer.

On my car over all this time of short trips, very long trips, in very hot weather, cooler weather, lots of mountains, lots of flat land, the difference over time is pretty consistent, about 1 1/2 to 2 mpg more by computer than what I calculate. That's quite close.
YES - some fill ups all of sudden it's 3 mpg different, but then sometimes it is less than 1 mpg different.